hedgehog-goulash7:

I’m still trying to figure out what Natasha actually MEANT in “Cap3:
Civil War” when she exclaimed to Tony “you can’t let go of your damned
EGO for one second, can you?”

I mean – what??? I didn’t see
much evidence throughout CACW of Tony flexing his ego – far from it;
almost completely the opposite.  He was consciously deferential to Ross
when he was bargaining for more time TO SAVE HIS FRIENDS from Ross’s
kill squads. He practically PLEADED with Steve, time and time again, to
see reason and sign the Accords.  He did the ONLY thing he could think
of doing, before going to meet Steve and the rebels at the airport, to
SAVE Steve and the rebels if they got feisty: he brought Peter Parker to
“web ‘em up,” which is pretty much the ONLY way you can subdue a
super-powered individual without hurting them.

So that line
from Nat has always puzzled and frustrated me – she knows Tony very
well. She knows he’s in pain over Rhodey at that moment. So what in holy hell did she mean by that??  Is it just bad screenwriting?  What ego did Tony ever
show in CACW?? If it’s just supporting the Accords – well, Nat did
too, and so did the wise Vision and Rhodey, so…

I’m genuinely curious.

ok here’s my personal theory:

tony asking if she was ever on his side cut too close to home for her. we know from the “would you trust me”/“i would now” scene in winter soldier that natasha is sensitive about whether the team trusts her. then we have tony, tony who is the avenger she has known longest (apart from clint) saying that she really was just a double agent, that all she really is is the worst of her. and it hurts her. it doesn’t matter that he’s hurting too, it doesn’t matter than he’s actually quite justified in feeling that way because she’s done it to him at least twice now. tony hit on the one thing that makes her lose her cool. so she lashes out. she goes for the jugular. she hits him in the place she knows he hurts the most. it’s a “oh, i’m just a double agent? well then you’re exactly the man you used to be, the man in my report, the man you’re afraid you are” moment. it’s cruel and unfair and she shouldn’t have said it but it makes sense to me. these are two people lashing out and pressing each other’s buttons because they’re hurting. natasha should have recognised how vulnerable tony was in that scene, but to do that she would have had to recognise how vulnerable she was, and that was never gonna happen

tonystarkdefensesquadmember:

menatiera:

skochius:

#fuck#tony stark#mcu#favorite movie#have you asked yourself the ugly questions though#like by the state of his hair; you can tell that around the time he’s building the arc reactor; he gets to take a shower#or at least clean his hair with water at any rate#but like at this point in the picture#how long has it been since he showered and in general#how! and! where! does! he! go! to! the! bathroom! this fucks me up#i know running water is too much to hope for but like was?? privacy an option??#or was that sort of humiliation part of the torture of the experience um was there toilet paper??#i know we all look at tony building the suit all greasy and muscly and sweaty and we’re like hashtagThirst but stay with me here for a Sec#because#WHAT DOES THE CAVE SMELL LIKE HONESTLY has tony spent three months confined to a space that reeks of his/yinsen’s piss shit and sweat#this legitimately fucks me up#forget like? basic human decency; tony just went through MAJOR OPEN HEART SURGERY these conditions could have legitimately killed him#did his chest wounds ever get infected?? did they heal as well as they should have#does anyone remember that deleted dubai scene where pepper is following tony around at a post-captivity party#and she’s carrying hand sanitizer for him. and tony asks for it as soon as he shakes other people’s hands. WELL#1) probably a nod to howard hughes; like the ‘don’t hand me things’ peeve WAS and 2) IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE YOU KNOW#after three months forced to live in his own filth#this is so fucked up like… that level of humiliation and sub-human treatment over such a long period of time#that will fucking fuck you up and that’s without considering the 64820 other types of physical/psychological torture he endured#such as waking up in the middle of open heart surgery he didn’t consent to. working at gunpoint under the threat of imminent death#waterboarding sensory deprivation watching yinsen almost be tortured then watching him die#gdi guys. imagine how fucked up it must be for tony to inhabit his own physical body after it was so mistreated @knightinironarmor 

#this is all VERY GOOD#and. ok lets talk about water for a sec#just a quick sec#because they are IN THE DESERT#there isnt going to be a steady suply of clean water at all#so. id imagine that water would be pretty well rationed#at least for tony and yinsen#so they not activly dying from thirst but its close#and WHAT DO THEY USE TO TRY TO CONVINCE TONY TO BUILD THE WEAPON?#they d r o w n him#like holy shit when you think about it how fucked up is that#(and also has he ever showered or is it just repeated dunkings that’s keeping him semi-clean)#like. going from an extreme absense of something to way too much must fuck you up#(one of my hc’s is that they took the amount of water that tony splashed out out of their rations#so he’d have to keep himself still or else both him and yinsen would be punished)#do you ever think he got so thirsty that drowning would’ve been a relief#because then maybe he has a chance to swallow down some water so he doesnt dehydrate#listen it just fucks me up so much#the implied lack of water (being in a DESERT)#but also using water as torture#and also. its cold in that cave? how often did tony almost get hypothermia because he was wearing wet clothes in a cold cave?#just. god. god. hes not ok someone help him  (via @rowantreewrites)